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Otro crater (10 Km) que podeis encontrar en google earth en estas cordenadas:
18º02´29.79" N
33º31´01.99" E
Enviado por : M.M.B
18-Mar-2006 17:23 CET
Saludos amigos de astroseti
Despues de leer este tema de descubrimientos de impacto de meteoritos,he andado brujuleando por Africa con el google earth y he visto varias formaciones que en ciertos casos semejan a cráteres de meteoro,otras se parecen mas a formaciones geológicas,se me ocurre el único modo de haceroslo llegar respondiendo en este lugar para añadir comentarios.
coordenadas geográficas:
-14*57'49'' N
-24*23'14'' E
estas coordenadas están en Sudan
---------------------------------------
este otro se encuentra en la confluencia de Egipto.Sudan y Libia
-21*56'11''-N
-24*55'07''-E
Ligeramente al nor-oeste de esta hay otro.
un saludo
Enviado por : As_Tronomo
10-Mar-2006 07:01 CET
¡Bien por ti Miguel Acevedo!
Diste con un cráter real en base a pura observación. No importa si ya había sido descubierto con anterioridad, lo gratificante es encontrarlo y confirmar que se trata de un verdadero cráter de impacto y si no está reportado y resultas ser el descubridor, pues mejor aún, claro está.
Por cierto, lo mismo le sucedió a nuestro amigo que lleva por nick "alqueleborranlospost".
…y a mí también :-DDD
Si haces clic sobre la frase -Ver todos los comentarios- podrás constatarlo.
Creo que este tópico merece la apertura de un tema en los foros de Astroseti y he puesto manos a la obra.
He aquí la dirección:
http://foros.astroseti.org/viewtopic.php?t=1995
Saludos.
Enviado por : Miguel Acevedo
10-Mar-2006 01:36 CET
Le he escrito al señor Farouk El-Baz y me ha confirmado que es el crater Oasis (Kufra).
Enviado por : Miguel Acevedo
09-Mar-2006 22:59 CET
He leído el artículo del nuevo cráter descubierto en Egipto. Buscando en “Google Earth” he encontrado el cráter. Revisando la imagen descubrí otro cráter más pequeño. Esta ubicado 56 km. al oeste.
Alguien podría confirmar esto.
Las coordenadas son:
Latitud= 24°34'37.10"N
Longitud= 24°24'34.02"E
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
09-Mar-2006 20:05 CET
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Enviado por : Dan
08-Mar-2006 09:51 CET
Ojo, que no tienen por qué estar todos descubiertos, de hecho el cráter protagonista del artículo acaba de ser recién identificado como tal, y estaba a tiro de piedra (nunca mejor dicho) de uno ya conocido (Oasis). Aun así, es bastante complicado descubrir cráteres desconocidos con Google Earth solo por suerte.
Respecto a los comentarios de ODISEO: es un pasatiempo tan bueno como otro cualquiera el intentar en fotos de satélites los cráteres conocidos en la base de datos. No los estamos descubriendo sino sólo observando. Es como si le dices a un aficionado que deje de mirar los objetos del catálogo Messier (por cierto recomiendo la sección) con su telescopio porque ya están descubiertas.
Enviado por : As_Tronomo
07-Mar-2006 23:27 CET
Ops, se me pasó dar las gracias a Dan y a Matusalén (aunque Dan te ganó Matu) …por el dato de la web, que por cierto se me hace muy familiar, pero no alcanzo a descubrir el por qué…jejejeje
No digas nada Matu.
¿Entonces el mío se llama Gweni- Fadael?
Y yo haciéndome ilusiones con el bautizo, hasta padrino le tenía. Lo mismo me sucedió con el Manicouagan ;-)
Saludos cordiales amigos.
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
07-Mar-2006 22:56 CET
Si comento y pierdo el tiempo buscando cráteres, aunque sepa que están todos ya encontrados, es porque me divierto, no por ser científico.
Por cierto ODISEO, no dudo que tu si eres un científico y por eso puedas criticarnos, pero a la hora de escribir... estás a nivel de escuela, cuida tus faltas de ortografia ;)
Enviado por : As_Tronomo
07-Mar-2006 22:44 CET
¿Al campo? ...pero qué dices ODISEO?
Lee bien el artículo. Un cráter de ese tamaño, difícilmente puede descubrirse desde “el campo”, por eso se habla de fotos de satélites (vistas en una pantalla seguramente ubicada sobre un escritorio)
Disculpa los comentarios anteriores en tono de broma. Asumía que cualquiera tiene la capacidad de identificarlos como tales.
Saludos desde el país de los cráteres.
Enviado por : Matusalén
07-Mar-2006 16:34 CET
entrar en http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/images/ y ahí podeis ver todos los que hay.
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
07-Mar-2006 15:36 CET
Dan, es muy interesante, muchas gracias :D
Enviado por : Dan
07-Mar-2006 15:22 CET
Y el crater astronomo es el Gweni-Fada
http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/images/gweni-fada.htm
Enviado por : Dan
07-Mar-2006 15:16 CET
De hecho el que marcabais antes (en rojo) se llama oasis y esta en la base de datos
http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/images/oasis.htm
Dan
Enviado por : Dan
07-Mar-2006 14:52 CET
Puedes empezar con los que ya existen en la Earth Impact Database:
http://www.unb.ca/passc/ImpactDatabase/index.html
Suerte!!!
Dan
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
07-Mar-2006 13:57 CET
Esto se está convirtiendo en una competición de búsqueda de cráteres presuntos...
Me gustaría que alguien de astroseti pusiera orden, o dijera en que sitio pueden consultarse los cráteres existentes en la tierra. Puede ser tema para un buen artículo. Y quizá nazca aquí el deporte de buscar cráteres con Google Earth... XD
Enviado por : As_Tronomo
07-Mar-2006 13:39 CET
ops! ...cierto.
¿Qué tal este?
http://img359.imageshack.us/img359/4912/crateastronomo9dp.jpg
...ha sido bautizado como el Cráter As_Tronomo jejejeje
Saludos.
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
07-Mar-2006 10:41 CET
As_Tronomo: Las tienes en la propia captura de pantalla, abajo del todo. Pero no se, algo así de llamativo... será una masa granítica o algo así muy erosionada, no un crater.
Enviado por : As_Tronomo
07-Mar-2006 04:33 CET
Muy bien, muy bien "elquele..."
Por ese camino, quizás veremos dentro de poco un nuevo cráter descubierto en la Tierra bautizado "Cráter elqueleborranlospost" jejeje ;-)
Bueno, ahora en serio que esa imagen está deslumbrante:
¿Nos vas a decir las coordenadas?
Saludos.
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
06-Mar-2006 23:09 CET
Aunque ahora que me he embalado... he seguido buscando por el desierto del Sahara y mirad:
http://img445.imageshack.us/img445/638/crater23em.jpg
Supongo que será volcánico, eso llama demasiado la atención como para no caer en él.
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
06-Mar-2006 22:41 CET
Y perdón por repetirme, se me había olvidado contestarte As_Tronomo. Efectivamente, me refería al señalado en rojo por ti.
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
06-Mar-2006 22:38 CET
As_Tronomo: Los vi... pero como no eran circulares sino alargados, no estaban alineados... y no me recordaban a los otros dos crateres, me dio por pensar que eran batolitos:
http://www2.sernageomin.cl/museo_final/rocas_intrusivas_02.htm
Rocas igneas vamos, me parecieron. Fue intuición mia, no otra cosa.
Enviado por : Tunguska
06-Mar-2006 22:32 CET
Menos mal que la atmósfera frena y rompe a los "bichos voladores" esos, que si no... menudos cráteres harían.
Enviado por : As_Tronomo
06-Mar-2006 22:12 CET
Liberto, con la cuadrícula de Latitud y Longitud (teclas Control + L), te será fácil ubicarlo en el Google Earth.
Alqueleborran, ¿es esto (en rojo) a lo que te refieres?
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/633/crateres3ct.jpg
En verde, hay otros más pequeños, aunque podrían ser cualquier otra cosa.
Otra referencia para quienes gustan de los cráteres:
51º 23’ N
68º 41’ W
Cráter Manicouagan, Canada.
Saludos
Enviado por : Cabezón
06-Mar-2006 22:05 CET
No le veo mayor importancia a la presencia de varios cráteres en línea. Primero, sólo se menciona el mayor en el artículo, precisamente por eso, porque es el mayor.
Segundo, en algunos impactos es frecuente que se formen varios cráteres siguiendo la línea de caída del meteoro, debidos a fragmentos que se desprenden antes del impacto. Esos fragmentos tienden, lógicamente, a seguir la misma trayectoria del cuerpo original, con alguna diferencia, de ahí que se formen cráteres alineados. En las fotografías de la Luna y de otros astros se precian varios casos de cráteres alineados.
De todos modos, hay que felicitar a elque por su perspicacia.
Enviado por : Kanijo
06-Mar-2006 18:09 CET
Efectivamente Frasco, es el mismo Farouk El Baz que trabajó con las misiones Apolo.
Un saludo
Enviado por : Frasco
06-Mar-2006 15:00 CET
Posss si... en la imagen que muestra "elqu" parece el mismo crater, cuanto menos la similitud es asombrosa.
Enviado por : Frasco
06-Mar-2006 14:30 CET
Farouk El Baz era uno de los geólogos que participaban en las misiones Apolo seleccionando los lugares de alunizaje ¿o me equivoco de persona?
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
06-Mar-2006 14:10 CET
Liberto, para que te quedes tranquilo, te pongo el enlace subido a Imageshack.
http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/3206/crater0pt.jpg
Como puedes ver ahí, los dos cráteres se ven claramente. El tercero se puede poner más que en duda.
Enviado por : Liberto
06-Mar-2006 13:48 CET
Vamos a ver, amigo, elqueleborranlospost casi siempre. Acabo de poner el Google Earth versión 2006 y resulta que o tu tienes una versión que da los minutos excedidos de los 60 para seguir o tienes una exactitud diferente de la mia. En 24ºh7' Lat y 24º 15' Long. algo se ve, pero es más bien dunas del desierto.
Los paisajes están realmente desolados y efectivamente la zona de la noticia, se ve bastante similar.
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
06-Mar-2006 13:27 CET
Ok, no pasa nada. Todo está resuelto y hablado con el editor (la gente de astroseti es maja). Pasaos por Google Earth para ver de que estoy hablando.
Si la gente de astroseti ve el mínimo interés en esto y quiere que contacte con ellos por correo, que me lo hagan saber aquí (y que me digan donde puedo ver su correo).
Enviado por : elqueleborranlospost
06-Mar-2006 13:20 CET
¡Me han borrado los comentarios! "elqu" soy yo.
Ese "supuesto crater" al que hacía referencia(se ve fatal) del que hablo abajo, estaría alineado con el de la noticia, que he visto en Google Earth:
lat:24.736362
long:24.7379971
Y el que acabo de "descubrir" abajo a su izquierda es:
lat:24.572442
long:24.153218
Más pequeño y abajo a su izquierda, con unos 11 km de ancho.
Si me borrais me vais a dar mal que pensar...
Enviado por : elqu
06-Mar-2006 13:15 CET
El caso es que si trazas una linea que uniera a los dos cráteres, encuentras otra estructura que se ve fatal (tapada por las dunas) ya en Egipto...
lat:24.998405
long:26.121203
Me pregunto si no será otro crater, y que los tres se formaran en el mismo evento.
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